So President Bush says this during in his speech to the Knesset on the 60th anniversary of the founding of the state of Israel.
Some seem to believe we should negotiate with terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along,” the President said to the country’s legislative body, “We have heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: ‘Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided.’ We have an obligation to call this what it is –- the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history.
And Barry Obama, egomaniac that he is, gets all insulted and responds with this.
“Instead of tough talk and no action, we need to do what Kennedy, Nixon and Reagan did and use all elements of American power — including tough, principled, and direct diplomacy — to pressure countries like Iran and Syria. George Bush knows that I have never supported engagement with terrorists, and the president’s extraordinary politicization of foreign policy and the politics of fear do nothing to secure the American people or our stalwart ally Israel.”
So the White House Press Secretary responds with this.
“I understand when you are running for office sometimes you think the world revolves around you. That is not always true and it is not true in this case. The president is president regardless of an election cycle and he is going to be president of the United States through January 20, 2009,” Perino said.
“We are not going to change policy based on the ‘08 election. We are not going to stop talking about the ideals of the United States because there is an ‘08 election. They can fight it out over there but this is not new policy.”
And then Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean said this.
“Bush’s outrageous comments are an embarrassment to our country, not based in fact and bring us no closer to our goal of ending terrorist attacks against Israel and bringing peace to the region. If John McCain is really serious about being a different kind of Republican, he’ll denounce these remarks in the strongest terms possible.”
And not to be outdone, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Bush’s remarks were “unworthy” and added that “any serious person” should disassociate himself from those remarks.
Awfully defensive, those Democrats. Especially Barry, who seems to think the entire world revolves around his hope and change.
Truth is, the truth hurts. The Democrats are the party of appeasement. Jimmy Carter is the elder statesman of this despicable appeasement policy and Barry is doing his best to carry on the Carter tradition.
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“Instead of tough talk and no action….” Did bring-the-troops-home-now BHO really say that? Was he really alluding to the President who has, for several years, backed his tough talk with tough action–which action Our Little Barry has opposed from the git-go?
The Prez didn’t mention Obama and he didn’t say, “Obama’s an appeaser.” But because the Dem’s are so defensive and hate-filled for anyone who takes a different view and path from theirs, they take off on a collective tantrum (to include Johnny Eddie). But, hey, aren’t they some of the same ones who have *named* George W. Bush and likened him to Hitler? (Yes, Vicki, I believe they are!)
And while I’m at it, check this out: “I have never supported engagement with terrorists….” Also from Our Little Barry. Isn’t he the same one who said he would sit down with the “President” of Iran and other terrorist leaders?
Methinks these people really do not know their own minds–how appallingly inconsistent and hypocritical they are.
Ahem. Barack Obama has good reason to believe the reference in the speech was to him. Like, for instance, that the White House *said it was.*
http://www.americablog.com/2008/05/dear-media-white-house-told-you-that.html
He also raises a good question as reported, among other places, here:
http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/05/17/obama-on-the-offensive-against-mccain/
Why do Republicans suddenly have a problem with what Ronald Reagan did, what Richard Nixon did…
I mean, if we’re gonna throw around words like “appallingly inconsistent and hypocritical,” let’s look for some consistency ourselves, hmm?
The White House Press Secretary said on the record that Bush was not talking about Obama. I trust that over those “private” sources at your link. But even if he did, it’s the truth. Obama is a appeaser. Carter is the grand-daddy of appeasers and the Democratic Party is the party of appeasers. I find it amusing that the left loves Ronald Reagan now – considering he was as hated at Bush back in his day, and Richard Nixon? The left is using Richard Nixon as an example of what to do now? Gawd, the irony. Not that the comparisons apply in this case, but using them is priceless.
Oh, well, if someone in this White House Press said it “on the record,” it must be true, mustn’t it?
By the way, did you hear that Bush gave up golf for the troops?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/13/bush-i-gave-up-golf-for-t_n_101595.html
And I could have mentioned–you know who else says we have to talk to Hamas, don’t you?
John McCain.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200805180002?lid=305379&rid=8323216
(and Colin Powell, for that matter)
And McCain made fewer conditions for it than Obama has.
Those appeasers.
I think McCain was pretty clear when he said this, “I think part of the relationship will be dictated by how Hamas acts, not how the United States acts.”
BTW, James Rubin’s claim has been successfully slammed as a falsehood.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/05/020548.php
No one is saying you don’t talk with these people. But you don’t engage them without preconditions which is EXACTLY what Obama said in the beginning. You seem to have forgotten that which is understandable since Obama seems to have forgotten it as have the liberal press. Let me be clear – Obama set NO conditions in the beginning. It was only when he started getting slammed on his naivete that he changed his tune. Somethine he does all the time, I might add.
Oh, and I take any statement that is on the record more seriously than one that is not. That is simply common sense no matter who is making the statement.
Finally, yes, I heard about Bush giving up golf. And I am glad he did and I will tell you why. When I was in the Air Force during the first Iraq War I vividly recall the first President Bush fishing – some big news story on it – and I remember being pissed that he was out there doing that when my family, who were with me overseas, were being guarded by armed troops because we expected terrorists attacks on base. Now, it was a completely illogical anger, since he had a right, just like every American, to try to get on with their lives even during the worst of times, and especially during a war since he no doubt was consumed with the importance of it night and day. But illogical as it was, it was real and I would have appreciated it very much had he given it up, or at least not been so public about it, while I was serving during that time. So the left can make fun of Bush giving up his golf game, but it’s a small gesture that speaks largely and I, for one, appreciate it.
BTW, you can’t beat me, Ben, for I Am Spartacus. Heh, heh, I always wanted to say that.
You have your rules, I have mine. One of mine is, I take Media Matters & Kos more seriously than Powerline. They have a tad more credibility.
If you follow the link, you see that it’s about the likelyhood that Bush gave up his golf game because of knee problems.
So far as I know, if “the left” is making fun of anything, it’s the idea of Bush trying to turn that into a gesture. A gesture I think would be an empty one in any case, but that’s in the eye of the beholder.
Oh, and I’m not particuarly trying to beat you, TRO. I certainly hope that’s not one of those unimporant things you become consumed by, illogically.
But–heh heh–one thing I always wanted to say is that the Democrats are coming together to defend one another.
And whadaya know. We are.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/5/16/101123/040
And that’s how we’re gonna win the election.
Kos has more credibility that Power Line? Ben, please. Even if you placed any credibility in Markos himself, it’s a diary blog made up of guy and gals who will post anything. It has so much credibility that KOS deletes diary posts weekly that he doesn’t like or that have gone too far. He doesn’t defend them; he doesn’t explain them; he doesn’t keep them up and let them speak for themselves. He disappears them. And this happens all the time. Media Matters is a left-wing deal, so it makes sense you would believe them over Power Line. But to question Power Line’s credibility is too far, as they seem to cover the news fairly.
I have seen several blogs making fun of his quitting golf over this. But what else is new?
I have no doubt most Dems will come together before the general. But frankly you are gonna need every damn one of you guys to win it. Any reasonable percentage of Hillary supporters defecting or sitting out and you lose (and there are a LOT of pissed-off women who wanted Hillary). Any reasonable percentage of Independents voting for McCain and you lose.
And McCain is the guy to get those votes being a liberal Republican. How do you think the Dems won so many congressional seats this past election. They put up CONSERVATIVE Blue Dog Dems as candidates.
Besides, my bet is Obama is going to self-destruct along the lines of McGovern and Dukakis. His comments about Iran and American’s not being able to eat the way they want to or air condition their homes might seem like small things, but there are far more gun-toting, God-glinging, air-conditioning-loving, food-desiring, working class white folks than there are blacks and guilt-ridden white liberals. And many of those are moderate Dems and Independents., just the types who are seriously looking at McCain.
In other words, Obama-mania may not translate from the primaries to the general.
I don’t think it will. I could be wrong. I have been before. But I don’t think I am.